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Best Practice for Place Hierarchy New York City

Reinhard John
Hello,

I am looking for advice to enter a place within New York City.

I usually use the following place types:
locality, city, county, state, country.
For NYC there are the 5 boroughs which are a subdivision of a city (= locality) but also counties.

Which is the best way to enter the place hierarchy?

Kind regards
Reinhard


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Re: Best Practice for Place Hierarchy New York City

Dave Scheipers
Hi Reinhard

As with everything, there is no best practices. There is only what
works best for each user.  That said, this is how I have set my
hierarchy.

New York City
  New York  - after 1788-07-25      (the state)
  Province of New York - from 1683-11-01 to 1788-07-26 (English Colony)
  York Shire - from 1664-08-29 to 1683-11-01 (a county in Province of New York)
  New Netherland - from 1600 to 1664-09-08  (Dutch colony)
  New York  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)
NYC was also known as New Amsterdam until 1664-09-08 so alternative
name dates are also set

Bronx      (a borough and a county)
   New York City  (no dates)

Brooklyn    (a borough and Kings County)
  New York City - after 1897-05-03
  New York - from 1788-07-26 to 1897-05-04
  Province of New York - from 1600 to 1788-07-26
  New York City  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)

Manhattan    (a borough and New York County)
  New York City  (no dates)

Queens    (a borough and a county)
  New York City  - after 1897-05-03
  New York - from 1788-07-26 to 1897-05-04
  Province of New York -  from 1600 to 1788-07-26
  New York City  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)

Staten Island   (a borough and Richmond County)
  New York City - after 1897-05-03
  New York - from 1788-07-26 to 1897-05-04
  Province of New York - from 1600 to 1788-07-26
  New York City  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)

Dave


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reinhard John <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for advice to enter a place within New York City.
>
> I usually use the following place types:
> locality, city, county, state, country.
> For NYC there are the 5 boroughs which are a subdivision of a city (= locality) but also counties.
>
> Which is the best way to enter the place hierarchy?
>
> Kind regards
> Reinhard
>
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Re: Best Practice for Place Hierarchy New York City

Patrice Legoux
New Netherland - from 1600 to 1664-09-08  (Dutch colony)

In the same way, Brooklyn was Breukelen, Staten Island was Staten Generaal, Harlem was Nieuw Haarlem, Manhattan was Manahata and previously Manna-hata...

Le mer. 1 janv. 2020 à 21:53, Dave Scheipers <[hidden email]> a écrit :
Hi Reinhard

As with everything, there is no best practices. There is only what
works best for each user.  That said, this is how I have set my
hierarchy.

New York City
  New York  - after 1788-07-25      (the state)
  Province of New York - from 1683-11-01 to 1788-07-26 (English Colony)
  York Shire - from 1664-08-29 to 1683-11-01 (a county in Province of New York)
  New Netherland - from 1600 to 1664-09-08  (Dutch colony)
  New York  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)
NYC was also known as New Amsterdam until 1664-09-08 so alternative
name dates are also set

Bronx      (a borough and a county)
   New York City  (no dates)

Brooklyn    (a borough and Kings County)
  New York City - after 1897-05-03
  New York - from 1788-07-26 to 1897-05-04
  Province of New York - from 1600 to 1788-07-26
  New York City  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)

Manhattan    (a borough and New York County)
  New York City  (no dates)

Queens    (a borough and a county)
  New York City  - after 1897-05-03
  New York - from 1788-07-26 to 1897-05-04
  Province of New York -  from 1600 to 1788-07-26
  New York City  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)

Staten Island   (a borough and Richmond County)
  New York City - after 1897-05-03
  New York - from 1788-07-26 to 1897-05-04
  Province of New York - from 1600 to 1788-07-26
  New York City  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)

Dave


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reinhard John <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for advice to enter a place within New York City.
>
> I usually use the following place types:
> locality, city, county, state, country.
> For NYC there are the 5 boroughs which are a subdivision of a city (= locality) but also counties.
>
> Which is the best way to enter the place hierarchy?
>
> Kind regards
> Reinhard
>
>
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Re: Best Practice for Place Hierarchy New York City

Dave Scheipers
I just updated my records.

Thanks
Dave

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 6:28 AM Patrice Legoux
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> > New Netherland - from 1600 to 1664-09-08  (Dutch colony)
>
> In the same way, Brooklyn was Breukelen, Staten Island was Staten Generaal, Harlem was Nieuw Haarlem, Manhattan was Manahata and previously Manna-hata...
>
> Le mer. 1 janv. 2020 à 21:53, Dave Scheipers <[hidden email]> a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Reinhard
>>
>> As with everything, there is no best practices. There is only what
>> works best for each user.  That said, this is how I have set my
>> hierarchy.
>>
>> New York City
>>   New York  - after 1788-07-25      (the state)
>>   Province of New York - from 1683-11-01 to 1788-07-26 (English Colony)
>>   York Shire - from 1664-08-29 to 1683-11-01 (a county in Province of New York)
>>   New Netherland - from 1600 to 1664-09-08  (Dutch colony)
>>   New York  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)
>> NYC was also known as New Amsterdam until 1664-09-08 so alternative
>> name dates are also set
>>
>> Bronx      (a borough and a county)
>>    New York City  (no dates)
>>
>> Brooklyn    (a borough and Kings County)
>>   New York City - after 1897-05-03
>>   New York - from 1788-07-26 to 1897-05-04
>>   Province of New York - from 1600 to 1788-07-26
>>   New York City  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)
>>
>> Manhattan    (a borough and New York County)
>>   New York City  (no dates)
>>
>> Queens    (a borough and a county)
>>   New York City  - after 1897-05-03
>>   New York - from 1788-07-26 to 1897-05-04
>>   Province of New York -  from 1600 to 1788-07-26
>>   New York City  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)
>>
>> Staten Island   (a borough and Richmond County)
>>   New York City - after 1897-05-03
>>   New York - from 1788-07-26 to 1897-05-04
>>   Province of New York - from 1600 to 1788-07-26
>>   New York City  (no dates, used as default when no event date in known)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reinhard John <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am looking for advice to enter a place within New York City.
>> >
>> > I usually use the following place types:
>> > locality, city, county, state, country.
>> > For NYC there are the 5 boroughs which are a subdivision of a city (= locality) but also counties.
>> >
>> > Which is the best way to enter the place hierarchy?
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> > Reinhard
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gramps-users mailing list
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>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users
>> > https://gramps-project.org
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>>
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