Custom events not shown in separate category, but in category Personal Events. By design or bug?

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Custom events not shown in separate category, but in category Personal Events. By design or bug?

John W. Kitz-3
Hi,

All events I used to date are shown in their own separate category. However
Custom events are shown together with events such as Birth or Death in the
category of Personal Events. Does anybody happen to know if that is by
design or a bug and if I, as an end-user, can do anything to influence that?

Regards, Jk.


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Re: Custom events not shown in separate category, but in category Personal Events. By design or bug?

prculley
It is not too clear exactly what you mean by your question.
When selecting from the events list in an event add dialog, the custom events are listed under the 'Custom' label which must be expanded to actually see one of the custom events.

When looking at the 'Events' Gramplet at the bottom of the Person or Family Edit dialog, custom (or any other) events are listed under what they are attached to (Marriage, Father, or Mother for the Family edit dialog, Person or Family for the Person editor dialog).

When looking at the 'Events' Gramplet at the bottom of the Person or Family View, there is no category listed.

All of this is by design, if you think it should be different, please describe your thoughts in greater detail.

Paul Culley

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:50 AM, John W. Kitz <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

All events I used to date are shown in their own separate category. However
Custom events are shown together with events such as Birth or Death in the
category of Personal Events. Does anybody happen to know if that is by
design or a bug and if I, as an end-user, can do anything to influence that?

Regards, Jk.


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Re: Custom events not shown in separate category, but in category Personal Events. By design or bug?

anne-ology
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       ah, maybe if I understood this question-answer, I'd understand what my problem is,

          would someone please be so kind as to explain - in baby steps - how to do this.



From: Paul Culley <[hidden email]>
Date: Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Custom events not shown in separate category, but in category Personal Events. By design or bug?
To: "John W. Kitz" <[hidden email]>
Cc: gramps-users <[hidden email]>


It is not too clear exactly what you mean by your question.
When selecting from the events list in an event add dialog, the custom events are listed under the 'Custom' label which must be expanded to actually see one of the custom events.

When looking at the 'Events' Gramplet at the bottom of the Person or Family Edit dialog, custom (or any other) events are listed under what they are attached to (Marriage, Father, or Mother for the Family edit dialog, Person or Family for the Person editor dialog).

When looking at the 'Events' Gramplet at the bottom of the Person or Family View, there is no category listed.

All of this is by design, if you think it should be different, please describe your thoughts in greater detail.

Paul Culley



On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:50 AM, John W. Kitz <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

All events I used to date are shown in their own separate category. However
Custom events are shown together with events such as Birth or Death in the
category of Personal Events. Does anybody happen to know if that is by
design or a bug and if I, as an end-user, can do anything to influence that?

Regards, Jk.



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Re: Custom events not shown in separate category, but in category Personal Events. By design or bug?

John W. Kitz-3
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Paul,

On 2017-05-10 17:29, Paul Culley wrote:

> It is not too clear exactly what you mean by your question.
> When selecting from the events list in an event add dialog, the custom
> events are listed under the 'Custom' label which must be expanded to
> actually see one of the custom events.
>
> When looking at the 'Events' Gramplet at the bottom of the Person or
> Family Edit dialog, custom (or any other) events are listed under what
> they are attached to (Marriage, Father, or Mother for the Family edit
> dialog, Person or Family for the Person editor dialog).
>
> When looking at the 'Events' Gramplet at the bottom of the Person or
> Family View, there is no category listed.
>
> All of this is by design, if you think it should be different, please
> describe your thoughts in greater detail.

I'm in a person view, have the events tab selected, click on plus to add
and event, then use the drop down to select an event type and finally
select one of the custom events I've added. These customs events appears
together with the personal events and are also counted as such in the
number next to the event type indicator.

In mu particular case I have added custom travel events for Departure
and Arrival and these appear among personal events like birth, baptism
and such, while I would have expected them to appear under a separate
group heading just as e.g. personal or family events.

Also is there by any chance a way to permanently sort events based on
their date of occurrence, just as one can permanently sort all children
of a family base on their DoB, as opposed to having to click 'date' at
the top of the column every time to initiate a sort?

> Paul Culley

Regards, Jk.

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Re: Custom events not shown in separate category, but in category Personal Events. By design or bug?

prculley
It looks like you are using what we call the person editor.
As I stated before, all events are displayed here based on the attachment to the person or person's family, there is no further attempt to categorize.

I'm not sure how they would be categorized in any event, we would not know if the event was deeply personal, like a death, or just a fact related to his like, like a residence event.

At this time there is no way I know of, to sort events attached to a person or family in their order of occurrence.  I'm pretty sure they appear in the order they were attached to the person.  It is quite possible to create a plugin (like the Birth Order plugin you seem to be referring to ) which could do the job.

Want to join the Group of contributors to Gramps?  Write it yourself, that's how I got started here.  Or use the bug tracker to make a feature request and hope that someone is sufficiently interested to write it for you.

Paul Culley

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:17 AM, John W. Kitz <[hidden email]> wrote:
Paul,

On 2017-05-10 17:29, Paul Culley wrote:
It is not too clear exactly what you mean by your question.
When selecting from the events list in an event add dialog, the custom
events are listed under the 'Custom' label which must be expanded to
actually see one of the custom events.

When looking at the 'Events' Gramplet at the bottom of the Person or
Family Edit dialog, custom (or any other) events are listed under what
they are attached to (Marriage, Father, or Mother for the Family edit
dialog, Person or Family for the Person editor dialog).

When looking at the 'Events' Gramplet at the bottom of the Person or
Family View, there is no category listed.

All of this is by design, if you think it should be different, please
describe your thoughts in greater detail.

I'm in a person view, have the events tab selected, click on plus to add and event, then use the drop down to select an event type and finally select one of the custom events I've added. These customs events appears together with the personal events and are also counted as such in the number next to the event type indicator.

In mu particular case I have added custom travel events for Departure and Arrival and these appear among personal events like birth, baptism and such, while I would have expected them to appear under a separate group heading just as e.g. personal or family events.

Also is there by any chance a way to permanently sort events based on their date of occurrence, just as one can permanently sort all children of a family base on their DoB, as opposed to having to click 'date' at the top of the column every time to initiate a sort?

Paul Culley

Regards, Jk.


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