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Nick Hall-6

English or American spelling?

I was thinking of writing a po file with English spellings to learn more
about translations. I expected Gramps to use American spellings.

Running an English spell check on gramps.pot I found the following
American spellings:

analyzing
baptized
canceled
capitalization
center
centered
centering
color
colored
coloring
dialog
maximized
neighborhood
organize
organized
unrecognized

However, running an American spell check I found the following English
spellings:

baptised
cancelling
colour
coloured
colours
indices
recognised

There were also two mistakes:

descripion
layed

Should Gramps use American or English spellings? Is this documented
anywhere?

Nick.

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Brian Matherly

Re: English or American spelling?

Nick,

>I was thinking of writing a po file with English spellings to learn more
>about translations. I expected Gramps to use American spellings.
>
>Running an English spell check on gramps.pot I found the following
>American spellings:
>
>analyzing
>baptized
>canceled
>capitalization
>center
>centered
>centering
>color
>colored
>coloring
>dialog
>maximized
>neighborhood
>organize
>organized
>unrecognized
>
>However, running an American spell check I found the following English
>spellings:
>
>baptised
>cancelling
>colour
>coloured
>colours
>indices
>recognised
>
>There were also two mistakes:
>
>descripion
>layed
>
>Should Gramps use American or English spellings? Is this documented
>anywhere?

Great stuff. I don't know of anywhere this is documented. My advice would be to use American English because I expect you will find many more instances of "color" than "colour" (for example). Then, it would make sense to create a po file for "en_GB".

~BM

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jerome

Re: English or American spelling?

If this can help, we already used 'msgen' command[1] for generating
sub-translations (same sex, animal pedigree) with English base and some
variations.

Note, maybe one or two possible issues/limitations with localized
date[2] and relationships[3] handlers!

* LANG_TO_PARSER = {
'C' : DateParser,
'en' : DateParser,
'English_United States' : DateParser,
}

LANG_TO_DISPLAY = {
'C' : DateDisplayEn,
'en' : DateDisplayEn,
'English_United States' : DateDisplayEn,

* Relationships are hardcoded or they are displayed/calculated by a
localized module.

[1]
http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/msgen-Invocation.html
[2] http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Date_Handler
[3]
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Relationship_Calculator

Jérôme

Brian Matherly a écrit :

> Nick,
>
>
>> I was thinking of writing a po file with English spellings to learn more
>> about translations. I expected Gramps to use American spellings.
>>
>> Running an English spell check on gramps.pot I found the following
>> American spellings:
>>
>> analyzing
>> baptized
>> canceled
>> capitalization
>> center
>> centered
>> centering
>> color
>> colored
>> coloring
>> dialog
>> maximized
>> neighborhood
>> organize
>> organized
>> unrecognized
>>
>> However, running an American spell check I found the following English
>> spellings:
>>
>> baptised
>> cancelling
>> colour
>> coloured
>> colours
>> indices
>> recognised
>>
>> There were also two mistakes:
>>
>> descripion
>> layed
>>
>> Should Gramps use American or English spellings? Is this documented
>> anywhere?
>
>
> Great stuff. I don't know of anywhere this is documented. My advice would be to use American English because I expect you will find many more instances of "color" than "colour" (for example). Then, it would make sense to create a po file for "en_GB".
>
> ~BM
>
>
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Benny Malengier

Re: English or American spelling?

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2012/5/10 Brian Matherly <[hidden email]>

Nick,

>I was thinking of writing a po file with English spellings to learn more
>about translations. I expected Gramps to use American spellings.
>
>Running an English spell check on gramps.pot I found the following
>American spellings:
>
>analyzing
>baptized
>canceled
>capitalization
>center
>centered
>centering
>color
>colored
>coloring
>dialog
>maximized
>neighborhood
>organize
>organized
>unrecognized
>
>However, running an American spell check I found the following English
>spellings:
>
>baptised
>cancelling
>colour
>coloured
>colours
>indices
>recognised
>
>There were also two mistakes:
>
>descripion
>layed
>
>Should Gramps use American or English spellings? Is this documented
>anywhere?

Great stuff. I don't know of anywhere this is documented. My advice would be to use American English because I expect you will find many more instances of "color" than "colour" (for example). Then, it would make sense to create a po file for "en_GB".

Yes.
And as the original authors were American, I would expect american english. The errors will be by Europeans contributing to the source.

Benny.

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Nick Hall-6

Re: English or American spelling?

In reply to this post by Brian Matherly

On 10/05/12 15:06, Brian Matherly wrote:

I agree. For international projects I would expect that the default
would be American English.

I don't know if I would normally bother to create a translation for
en_GB, but I wanted to go through the process that the translators go
through.

I'll change all the English spellings to American in trunk.

Nick.

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Doug

Re: English or American spelling?

On 10/05/12 17:36, Nick Hall wrote:

> On 10/05/12 15:06, Brian Matherly wrote:
>> Nick,
>>
>>
>>> I was thinking of writing a po file with English spellings to learn more
>>> about translations. I expected Gramps to use American spellings.
>>>
>>> Running an English spell check on gramps.pot I found the following
>>> American spellings:
>>>
>>> analyzing
>>> baptized
>>> canceled
>>> capitalization
>>> center
>>> centered
>>> centering
>>> color
>>> colored
>>> coloring
>>> dialog
>>> maximized
>>> neighborhood
>>> organize
>>> organized
>>> unrecognized
>>>
>>> However, running an American spell check I found the following English
>>> spellings:
>>>
>>> baptised
>>> cancelling
>>> colour
>>> coloured
>>> colours
>>> indices
>>> recognised
>>>
>>> There were also two mistakes:
>>>
>>> descripion
>>> layed
>>>
>>> Should Gramps use American or English spellings? Is this documented
>>> anywhere?
>>
>> Great stuff. I don't know of anywhere this is documented. My advice would be to use American English because I expect you will find many more instances of "color" than "colour" (for example). Then, it would make sense to create a po file for "en_GB".
>>
>> ~BM
>>
> I agree. For international projects I would expect that the default
> would be American English.
>
> I don't know if I would normally bother to create a translation for
> en_GB, but I wanted to go through the process that the translators go
> through.
>
> I'll change all the English spellings to American in trunk.
>
> Nick.
>

Do please create an en_GB translation, at least so as to be
consistent with firefox, open office, etc, etc

Doug

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Nick Hall-6

Re: English or American spelling?

On 11/05/12 09:38, doug wrote:

> On 10/05/12 17:36, Nick Hall wrote:
>> On 10/05/12 15:06, Brian Matherly wrote:
>>> Nick,
>>>
>>>
>>>> I was thinking of writing a po file with English spellings to learn
>>>> more
>>>> about translations. I expected Gramps to use American spellings.
>>>>
>>>> Running an English spell check on gramps.pot I found the following
>>>> American spellings:
>>>>
>>>> analyzing
>>>> baptized
>>>> canceled
>>>> capitalization
>>>> center
>>>> centered
>>>> centering
>>>> color
>>>> colored
>>>> coloring
>>>> dialog
>>>> maximized
>>>> neighborhood
>>>> organize
>>>> organized
>>>> unrecognized
>>>>
>>>> However, running an American spell check I found the following English
>>>> spellings:
>>>>
>>>> baptised
>>>> cancelling
>>>> colour
>>>> coloured
>>>> colours
>>>> indices
>>>> recognised
>>>>
>>>> There were also two mistakes:
>>>>
>>>> descripion
>>>> layed
>>>>
>>>> Should Gramps use American or English spellings? Is this documented
>>>> anywhere?
>>>
>>> Great stuff. I don't know of anywhere this is documented. My advice
>>> would be to use American English because I expect you will find many
>>> more instances of "color" than "colour" (for example). Then, it
>>> would make sense to create a po file for "en_GB".
>>>
>>> ~BM
>>>
>> I agree. For international projects I would expect that the default
>> would be American English.
>>
>> I don't know if I would normally bother to create a translation for
>> en_GB, but I wanted to go through the process that the translators go
>> through.
>>
>> I'll change all the English spellings to American in trunk.
>>
>> Nick.
>>
> Do please create an en_GB translation, at least so as to be consistent
> with firefox, open office, etc, etc
>
> Doug
>

I have now committed an English (British) translation.

The code in trunk should now only contain translatable strings in
American. I rebuilt to gramps.pot reflect these changes.

Let me know if I have missed anything.

Nick.

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Peter Landgren

Re: English or American spelling?

I have tested it and it seems OK.

/Peter

> On 11/05/12 09:38, doug wrote:
>> On 10/05/12 17:36, Nick Hall wrote:
>>> On 10/05/12 15:06, Brian Matherly wrote:
>>>> Nick,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking of writing a po file with English spellings to learn
>>>>> more
>>>>> about translations. I expected Gramps to use American spellings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running an English spell check on gramps.pot I found the following
>>>>> American spellings:
>>>>>
>>>>> analyzing
>>>>> baptized
>>>>> canceled
>>>>> capitalization
>>>>> center
>>>>> centered
>>>>> centering
>>>>> color
>>>>> colored
>>>>> coloring
>>>>> dialog
>>>>> maximized
>>>>> neighborhood
>>>>> organize
>>>>> organized
>>>>> unrecognized
>>>>>
>>>>> However, running an American spell check I found the following English
>>>>> spellings:
>>>>>
>>>>> baptised
>>>>> cancelling
>>>>> colour
>>>>> coloured
>>>>> colours
>>>>> indices
>>>>> recognised
>>>>>
>>>>> There were also two mistakes:
>>>>>
>>>>> descripion
>>>>> layed
>>>>>
>>>>> Should Gramps use American or English spellings? Is this documented
>>>>> anywhere?
>>>> Great stuff. I don't know of anywhere this is documented. My advice
>>>> would be to use American English because I expect you will find many
>>>> more instances of "color" than "colour" (for example). Then, it
>>>> would make sense to create a po file for "en_GB".
>>>>
>>>> ~BM
>>>>
>>> I agree. For international projects I would expect that the default
>>> would be American English.
>>>
>>> I don't know if I would normally bother to create a translation for
>>> en_GB, but I wanted to go through the process that the translators go
>>> through.
>>>
>>> I'll change all the English spellings to American in trunk.
>>>
>>> Nick.
>>>
>> Do please create an en_GB translation, at least so as to be consistent
>> with firefox, open office, etc, etc
>>
>> Doug
>>
> I have now committed an English (British) translation.
>
> The code in trunk should now only contain translatable strings in
> American. I rebuilt to gramps.pot reflect these changes.
>
> Let me know if I have missed anything.
>
> Nick.
>
>
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Stéphane Charette-2

Re: English or American spelling?

In reply to this post by Benny Malengier

Yes.
And as the original authors were American, I would expect american english. The errors will be by Europeans contributing to the source.

Or Canadians. To make matters worse, we use a mix of international (British) English and U.S. English. I'm always conflicted when a software package presents me with a choice between British and American language options.

Stéphane