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Gerald Britton-2

Event type MOVE

Was there ever a gedcom event type = MOVE? I received a gedcom from a
colleague with some of these but I can't find them in gramps

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Don Allingham

Re: Event type MOVE

The GEDCOM spec does not define a MOVE event. However, many programs
like to create their own extensions.

So, I am guessing that you see:

1 MOVE

When it should be something like:

1 EVEN
2 TYPE MOVE

This is how custom event types are supposed to be defined.

On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 15:59 -0400, Gerald Britton wrote:

> Was there ever a gedcom event type = MOVE? I received a gedcom from a
> colleague with some of these but I can't find them in gramps
>
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Gerald Britton-2

Re: Event type MOVE

Thanks Don, That makes sense. Here's another one. I got a ged from
someone running PAF. Most entries have something like this:

0 @F89@ FAM
1 _UID 00F330CB148D514BB8ABFCDA5536B128C80F

An individual entry looks like:

0 @I3@ INDI
1 NAME Margaret/Beckett/
2 SURN Beckett
2 GIVN Margaret
1 SEX F
1 BIRT
2 DATE 9 Oct 1912
2 PLAC St Mary's, Great Budworth, Cheshire, England
2 SOUR @S2@
3 PAGE Info from Geoffrey Beckett
1 DEAT
2 DATE 29 Jun 1972
2 PLAC Hyde, Cheshire, England
2 SOUR @S2@
3 PAGE Info from Geoffrey Beckett
1 _UID 88D28585FEA3AA48808787B51B5C5FA7B733
1 FAMC @F1@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 26 Dec 2003
3 TIME 00:00:00

I'm worried about the _UID... stuff, which looks non-standard. In the
first case for family F89, gramps import translates this to an event
with
event type=_UID 00F330CB148D514BB8ABFCDA5536B128C80F

This looks rather nasty but I'm not sure if gramps is doing the right
thing or the only thing that makes sense.

For individuals, an attribute is created _UID, having the value = to
the hex string.

Comments?

On 10/13/06, Don Allingham <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The GEDCOM spec does not define a MOVE event. However, many programs
> like to create their own extensions.
>
> So, I am guessing that you see:
>
> 1 MOVE
>
> When it should be something like:
>
> 1 EVEN
> 2 TYPE MOVE
>
> This is how custom event types are supposed to be defined.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 15:59 -0400, Gerald Britton wrote:
> > Was there ever a gedcom event type = MOVE? I received a gedcom from a
> > colleague with some of these but I can't find them in gramps
> >
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Jim Winfrey

Re: Event type MOVE

On 10/13/06, Gerald Britton <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks Don, That makes sense. Here's another one. I got a ged from
> someone running PAF. Most entries have something like this:
>
> 0 @F89@ FAM
> 1 _UID 00F330CB148D514BB8ABFCDA5536B128C80F
>
> An individual entry looks like:
>
> 0 @I3@ INDI
> 1 NAME Margaret/Beckett/
> 2 SURN Beckett
> 2 GIVN Margaret
> 1 SEX F
> 1 BIRT
> 2 DATE 9 Oct 1912
> 2 PLAC St Mary's, Great Budworth, Cheshire, England
> 2 SOUR @S2@
> 3 PAGE Info from Geoffrey Beckett
> 1 DEAT
> 2 DATE 29 Jun 1972
> 2 PLAC Hyde, Cheshire, England
> 2 SOUR @S2@
> 3 PAGE Info from Geoffrey Beckett
> 1 _UID 88D28585FEA3AA48808787B51B5C5FA7B733
> 1 FAMC @F1@
> 1 CHAN
> 2 DATE 26 Dec 2003
> 3 TIME 00:00:00
>
> I'm worried about the _UID... stuff, which looks non-standard. In the
> first case for family F89, gramps import translates this to an event
> with
> event type=_UID 00F330CB148D514BB8ABFCDA5536B128C80F
>
> This looks rather nasty but I'm not sure if gramps is doing the right
> thing or the only thing that makes sense.
>
> For individuals, an attribute is created _UID, having the value = to
> the hex string.
>
> Comments?
>
>

Gerald,

The UID number is a process the PAF developers created years ago to be
able to give people a unique identification number. A couple of
genealogy programs use it - most don't. Gramps sets it up as an
Attribute, making it fairly harmless. I usually strip them from the
gedcom before I import into Gramps. All you need to do is use the
search/replace in your text editor to find _UID and replace it with
:_UID and it will be ignored.

Jim

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Gerald Britton-2

Re: Event type MOVE

Unfortunately, if the uid is at the family level, gramps does this:

<family id="F0685" handle="_B5J1TJ3WVDX95VEF7B"
change="1156970164" type="Married">
<father hlink="_J4J1TJ386SJLD54PFB"/>
<mother hlink="_XOT1TJUNBKPXYDQVUV"/>
<event type="_UID 7C41D07CC6CE594F8B4DC3BFB95C53656C61">
</event>

Any idea how I can get gramps to ignore this as well (considering
there are two lines there)?

On 10/13/06, Jim Winfrey <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 10/13/06, Gerald Britton <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Thanks Don, That makes sense. Here's another one. I got a ged from
> > someone running PAF. Most entries have something like this:
> >
> > 0 @F89@ FAM
> > 1 _UID 00F330CB148D514BB8ABFCDA5536B128C80F
> >
> > An individual entry looks like:
> >
> > 0 @I3@ INDI
> > 1 NAME Margaret/Beckett/
> > 2 SURN Beckett
> > 2 GIVN Margaret
> > 1 SEX F
> > 1 BIRT
> > 2 DATE 9 Oct 1912
> > 2 PLAC St Mary's, Great Budworth, Cheshire, England
> > 2 SOUR @S2@
> > 3 PAGE Info from Geoffrey Beckett
> > 1 DEAT
> > 2 DATE 29 Jun 1972
> > 2 PLAC Hyde, Cheshire, England
> > 2 SOUR @S2@
> > 3 PAGE Info from Geoffrey Beckett
> > 1 _UID 88D28585FEA3AA48808787B51B5C5FA7B733
> > 1 FAMC @F1@
> > 1 CHAN
> > 2 DATE 26 Dec 2003
> > 3 TIME 00:00:00
> >
> > I'm worried about the _UID... stuff, which looks non-standard. In the
> > first case for family F89, gramps import translates this to an event
> > with
> > event type=_UID 00F330CB148D514BB8ABFCDA5536B128C80F
> >
> > This looks rather nasty but I'm not sure if gramps is doing the right
> > thing or the only thing that makes sense.
> >
> > For individuals, an attribute is created _UID, having the value = to
> > the hex string.
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> >
> Gerald,
>
> The UID number is a process the PAF developers created years ago to be
> able to give people a unique identification number. A couple of
> genealogy programs use it - most don't. Gramps sets it up as an
> Attribute, making it fairly harmless. I usually strip them from the
> gedcom before I import into Gramps. All you need to do is use the
> search/replace in your text editor to find _UID and replace it with
> :_UID and it will be ignored.
>
> Jim
>
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Alex Roitman

Re: Event type MOVE

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 14:34 -0400, Gerald Britton wrote:

> Unfortunately, if the uid is at the family level, gramps does this:
>
> <family id="F0685" handle="_B5J1TJ3WVDX95VEF7B"
> change="1156970164" type="Married">
> <father hlink="_J4J1TJ386SJLD54PFB"/>
> <mother hlink="_XOT1TJUNBKPXYDQVUV"/>
> <event type="_UID 7C41D07CC6CE594F8B4DC3BFB95C53656C61">
> </event>
>
> Any idea how I can get gramps to ignore this as well (considering
> there are two lines there)?

$ cat filename.ged | grep -v _UID > file_clean.ged
or
$ grep -v _UID filename.ged > file_clean.ged

Alex

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Gerald Britton-2

Re: Event type MOVE

Thanks folks,

Actually I am trying to remove them from a gramps XML file
(uncompressed). I think this will do catch both the attribute and
event type _UID's

awk '/<event type="_UID/{while ($1 !~
/<\/event>/){getline}}/<attribute type="_UID"/{getline}{print}'
data.gramps

On 10/13/06, Alex Roitman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 14:34 -0400, Gerald Britton wrote:
> > Unfortunately, if the uid is at the family level, gramps does this:
> >
> > <family id="F0685" handle="_B5J1TJ3WVDX95VEF7B"
> > change="1156970164" type="Married">
> > <father hlink="_J4J1TJ386SJLD54PFB"/>
> > <mother hlink="_XOT1TJUNBKPXYDQVUV"/>
> > <event type="_UID 7C41D07CC6CE594F8B4DC3BFB95C53656C61">
> > </event>
> >
> > Any idea how I can get gramps to ignore this as well (considering
> > there are two lines there)?
>
> $ cat filename.ged | grep -v _UID > file_clean.ged
> or
> $ grep -v _UID filename.ged > file_clean.ged
>
> Alex
>
> --
> Alexander Roitman http://www.gramps-project.org
>
>
>

Alex Roitman

Re: Event type MOVE

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 15:02 -0400, Gerald Britton wrote:
> Thanks folks,
>
> Actually I am trying to remove them from a gramps XML file
> (uncompressed). I think this will do catch both the attribute and
> event type _UID's
>
> awk '/<event type="_UID/{while ($1 !~
> /<\/event>/){getline}}/<attribute type="_UID"/{getline}{print}'
> data.gramps

Again, since the event/attribute are written on one line,
the simpler way would be:
grep -v _UID data.gramps > new_data.gramps
(or zgrep if data.gramps is gzipped).

Alex

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Gerald Britton-2

Re: Event type MOVE

Actually, you need to remove the </event>, which is on the next line,
as in this example:

<family id="F0686" handle="_C4J1TJ14SLZUVWV2BZ"
change="1156970164" type="Married">
<father hlink="_BWJ1TJOZUB5LEUM0F2"/>
<mother hlink="_R3J1TJ078SQJ4O0CO1"/>
<event type="_UID 2CC54D65EBF23B46B56812D3C512B1AA3531">
</event>

On 10/13/06, Alex Roitman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 15:02 -0400, Gerald Britton wrote:
> > Thanks folks,
> >
> > Actually I am trying to remove them from a gramps XML file
> > (uncompressed). I think this will do catch both the attribute and
> > event type _UID's
> >
> > awk '/<event type="_UID/{while ($1 !~
> > /<\/event>/){getline}}/<attribute type="_UID"/{getline}{print}'
> > data.gramps
>
> Again, since the event/attribute are written on one line,
> the simpler way would be:
> grep -v _UID data.gramps > new_data.gramps
> (or zgrep if data.gramps is gzipped).
>
> Alex
>
> --
> Alexander Roitman http://www.gramps-project.org
>
>
>

Alex Roitman

Re: Event type MOVE

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 15:09 -0400, Gerald Britton wrote:
> Actually, you need to remove the </event>, which is on the next line,
> as in this example:

You're right.

Another thing is, the reference to the event (in gramps 2.1.x
or 2.2.x) must also be removed. So in the newer gramps,
the easiest way should be go to the event view, sort by type,
and then delete all events of type _UID.

Alex

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