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I'm using Gramps 3.3 on linux and can't figure out how to activate the Census Gramplet. The instructions at http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Census_Addons are based on an older version of Gramps and I'm not sure that I'm entering information correctly.
Here's what I've done: opened Person: Doe, John, clicked on Sources tab, Add, clicked on General, Title and entered "1861 Canada East and West Census ". (without the quotes) clicked on Data tab, Add, Key "Census", Value "CA1861EW " (without the quotes), enter, OK, OK. Go to Census Gramplet > New, and there is nothing to add. What am I doing incorrectly? Is it safe to assume that once I do get these census reports working I am going to have to enter (for example) the 1861 Census for each individual in my database, or (hopefully) that particular Census form will now be automatically available for everyone? Thanks. |
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> Go to Census Gramplet > New, and there is nothing to
> add. I guess that your source should also be related to a census event. Without census event, no active source. --- En date de : Dim 13.11.11, cylverbak <[hidden email]> a écrit : > De: cylverbak <[hidden email]> > Objet: [Gramps-users] Help with Census Gramplet > À: [hidden email] > Date: Dimanche 13 novembre 2011, 16h54 > I'm using Gramps 3.3 on linux and > can't figure out how to activate the Census > Gramplet. The instructions at > http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Census_Addons > are based > on an older version of Gramps and I'm not sure that I'm > entering information > correctly. > > Here's what I've done: > > opened Person: Doe, John, clicked on Sources tab, Add, > clicked on General, > Title and entered "1861 Canada East and West Census ". > (without the quotes) > > clicked on Data tab, Add, Key "Census", Value "CA1861EW " > (without the > quotes), enter, OK, OK. > > Go to Census Gramplet > New, and there is nothing to > add. > > What am I doing incorrectly? > > Is it safe to assume that once I do get these census > reports working I am > going to have to enter (for example) the 1861 Census for > each individual in > my database, or (hopefully) that particular Census form > will now be > automatically available for everyone? > > Thanks. > > -- > View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/Help-with-Census-Gramplet-tp4036780p4036780.html > Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > Save $700 by Nov 18 > Register now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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actually I do have a Census event so I'll try it slightly differently . . .
Open Person: Doe, John, highlight Census Type under Events Edit Census, click on Sources, Add Title "1861 Canada East and West Census". Click on tab Data, Add Key "Census", Value "CA1861EW", enter, OK, OK. Back to Census Gramplet, New - still nothing available to open. |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:19:23 -0800 (PST)
cylverbak <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello cylverbak, > Back to Census Gramplet, New - still nothing available to open. Click the source dropdown; Although nothing is shown in the unselected state, as soon as you click it things appear. At least, they do here. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Every single one of us Devil Inside - INXS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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Thanks Brad, it worked but it took some fooling around . . .
The Source dropdown was greyed out and non-functional with my previous attempts. I deleted my Census source from John Doe, checked to make sure I still didn't have information entered under Person: Doe, John, Sources & Data. Re-started Gramps. Re-entered a Census Event and added my Source and Data infomation to that event. Re-start. Now in the Census Gramplet, Source was still greyed out but 1861 Census was showing in the window - but non-functional. Once more deleted the Census Event with the Source and Data and re-entered it. This time in the Census Gramplet, Sources did give an active blank window and I was able to select 1861 Census. No idea what changed. Seems to be working now. Go figure. Thanks folks for the feedback, . . . oh . . . and the 1861 Census form does seem to be available for all my people entries, I don't have to do them one at a time. Gramps seems like a very comprehensive database, I just really wish that data entry wasn't so complex and confusing. I'd even settle for a sample database of a generation with fairly filled in fields just to see how it is done. Haven't been able to find anything of the sort that's workable at this point. I definitely thank the developers for continuing work on this but hope that they will try to simplify data entry in future updates and/or publish an updated tutorial. I'm really struggling here. Again, thanks for the help. |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:04:13 -0800 (PST)
cylverbak <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello cylverbak, > Thanks Brad, it worked but it took some fooling around . . . YW. Yes, it took me a while, too. I discovered that entering a data tag was easy enough, but if I clicked "okay" to save the source before I'd moved the cursor out of the data field being edited, it didn't get saved and therefore wouldn't show up in the census gramplet. Also, I had to move to another individual and then back before what I'd entered would show up in the main gramplet window. So far though, I'm not totally sure I really need the census gramplet, as it seems to require a fair amount of extra data entry. Much of which I've already entered in another way. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" What do you call that noise, that you put on? This Is Pop - XTC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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fwiw, the census gramplet should now include an importable gramps
database for all canadian censuses that are available. You may go to family trees, import then go to the directory where the gramplet is and import the Canadian Census database. It also has repositories for easy lookup. On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Brad Rogers <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:04:13 -0800 (PST) > cylverbak <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hello cylverbak, > >> Thanks Brad, it worked but it took some fooling around . . . > > YW. Yes, it took me a while, too. I discovered that entering a data > tag was easy enough, but if I clicked "okay" to save the source before > I'd moved the cursor out of the data field being edited, it didn't get > saved and therefore wouldn't show up in the census gramplet. Also, I had > to move to another individual and then back before what I'd entered > would show up in the main gramplet window. > > So far though, I'm not totally sure I really need the census gramplet, > as it seems to require a fair amount of extra data entry. Much of which > I've already entered in another way. > > -- > Regards _ > / ) "The blindingly obvious is > / _)rad never immediately apparent" > What do you call that noise, that you put on? > This Is Pop - XTC > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > Save $700 by Nov 18 > Register now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > -- Gerald Britton ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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On 13/11/11 19:57, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:04:13 -0800 (PST) cylverbak [hidden email] wrote: Hello cylverbak,Thanks Brad, it worked but it took some fooling around . . .YW. Yes, it took me a while, too. I discovered that entering a data tag was easy enough, but if I clicked "okay" to save the source before I'd moved the cursor out of the data field being edited, it didn't get saved and therefore wouldn't show up in the census gramplet. Also, I had to move to another individual and then back before what I'd entered would show up in the main gramplet window. This looks like a bug - I'll have a look at it. The gramplet should refresh when changes are made to the database. So far though, I'm not totally sure I really need the census gramplet, as it seems to require a fair amount of extra data entry. Much of which I've already entered in another way. The census gramplet is most useful when you want to add the details in the columns of the census as attributes on the event references for each person. In this case, it will save you a lot of mouse clicks and/or keystrokes. The gramplet doesn't do anything that you can't do using the standard interface. If you want to record the details of the census form in a "transcript" note, then you will not gain much advantage from the gramplet. Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1_______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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On 13/11/11 19:04, cylverbak wrote:
> Thanks Brad, it worked but it took some fooling around . . . > > The Source dropdown was greyed out and non-functional with my previous > attempts. > > I deleted my Census source from John Doe, checked to make sure I still > didn't have information entered under Person: Doe, John, Sources& Data. > Re-started Gramps. Re-entered a Census Event and added my Source and Data > infomation to that event. Re-start. Now in the Census Gramplet, Source was > still greyed out but 1861 Census was showing in the window - but > non-functional. > > Once more deleted the Census Event with the Source and Data and re-entered > it. This time in the Census Gramplet, Sources did give an active blank > window and I was able to select 1861 Census. > > No idea what changed. Seems to be working now. Go figure. > > Thanks folks for the feedback, . . . oh . . . and the 1861 Census form does > seem to be available for all my people entries, I don't have to do them one > at a time. > > Gramps seems like a very comprehensive database, I just really wish that > data entry wasn't so complex and confusing. I'd even settle for a sample > database of a generation with fairly filled in fields just to see how it is > done. Haven't been able to find anything of the sort that's workable at this > point. > > I definitely thank the developers for continuing work on this but hope that > they will try to simplify data entry in future updates and/or publish an > updated tutorial. I'm really struggling here. > > Again, thanks for the help. I'm glad you got it working. Adding the sources is not a very user-friendly part of the census add-ons. For testing, I tended to create the sources first using the Source View. I did think about making it better but didn't think it was worth the effort for a one-off setup process. I like Gerald's idea of providing a database of sources. I may provide one for the England and Wales censuses. Nick. > -- > View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/Help-with-Census-Gramplet-tp4036780p4037253.html > Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > Save $700 by Nov 18 > Register now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:39:09 +0000
Nick Hall <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello Nick, > On 13/11/11 19:57, Brad Rogers wrote: > > YW. Yes, it took me a while, too. I discovered that entering a data > > tag was easy enough, but if I clicked "okay" to save the source > > before I'd moved the cursor out of the data field being edited, it > This looks like a bug - I'll have a look at it. The gramplet should Ah, so not just me going mad, then. :-) > refresh when changes are made to the database. > The census gramplet is most useful when you want to add the details in > the columns of the census as attributes on the event references for > each person. In this case, it will save you a lot of mouse clicks > and/or keystrokes. I'm going to play around with the gramplet for a while longer, as I can see some benefits, despite my previous comments. If nothing else, the data will be in the format we're used to seeing in census returns. > The gramplet doesn't do anything that you can't do using the standard > interface. That's what I thought, hence my initial lack of enthusiasm. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You destroyed my confidence, you broke my nerve Nervous Wreck - Radio Stars ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Brad Rogers <[hidden email]> wrote:
... >> The gramplet doesn't do anything that you can't do using the standard >> interface. > > That's what I thought, hence my initial lack of enthusiasm. Just a quick note: the Census Gramplet makes it easy *and* helps to get the data entered into the proper slots. This is a point for great enthusiasm, as it makes your data more robust, standardizes it, and also makes it so that if we have a better method for representing this data in the future, it will be in a well-defined form for conversion. It also doesn't prevent you from going in through the standard interface and editing or viewing. So, this is a great example of how to build a system on top of Gramps. If there are little refinements that we can make, that would be great. Everyone should use the "feature request" to make all parts of Gramps even better. In fact, I'd say that it is part of every Gramps user's responsibility to report any ideas, suggestions, or confusions. That is what makes open source work :) Thanks! -Doug ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:52:51 -0500
Doug Blank <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello Doug, > Just a quick note: the Census Gramplet makes it easy *and* helps to > get the data entered into the proper slots. This is a point for great > enthusiasm, as it makes your data more robust, standardizes it, and Quite. That's why I've been warming to the census gramplet. My initial disappointment came about because it means me re-entering a certain amount of data. A process I've just recently had to go through for other reasons. However, it will force me to re-evaluate all my research to ensure accuracy. Which, all in all, is no bad thing. > If there are little refinements that we can make, that would be great. > Everyone should use the "feature request" to make all parts of Gramps Once I've got a better idea of the way (I think) it could be improved, if I think it does need imrpovement, I'll certainly add my two cents worth as feature requests. :-) > Thanks! I wouldn't do that just yet, you don't know what I'm going to ask for. :-)) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Watching the people get lairy I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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I like the Census Gramplet since it makes things easier. It also encourages me to enter all the data that is not I still end up re-entering certain parts of the Census data. Specifically place of birth and calculated date of birth for each person goes under their birth info; immigration since I"m currently working with a lot of immigrants;
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> I deleted my Census source from John Doe, checked to make sure I still
> didn't have information entered under Person: Doe, John, Sources& Data. > Re-started Gramps. Re-entered a Census Event and added my Source and Data > infomation to that event. Re-start. Now in the Census Gramplet, Source was > still greyed out but 1861 Census was showing in the window - but > non-functional. > > Once more deleted the Census Event with the Source and Data and re-entered > it. This time in the Census Gramplet, Sources did give an active blank > window and I was able to select 1861 Census. I'm new to Gramps so am probably missing something very basic. I've been trying for the last four or five hours to get the census gramplet working but no census shows up in the drop down box when I try to add a new record. I've added the source info and the data keys as per above and the wiki to no avail. After each failed attempt I remove the census event and source and re-enter but can't seem to get any censuses to show in the drop down box. I'd really like to get this working as it looks like a great feature. Any help you could provide would be gratefully received. Thanks :) |
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Hi,
1) Start with a new empty family tree. 2) Add a person (name and gender). 3) Go to source view. 4) Add a source with title "Source for 1841 Census" 5) In that source editor go to "Data" tab. 6) Click plus sign to add. 7) Fill in in the key column "Census", hit enter. 8) Click on Value column and fill in "UK1841", hit enter! (are you forgetting this enter?) 9) Click on OK. 10) Reopen Source editor to see if all is right. 11) go to People view, switch on the sidebar (View->sidebar), add "Census Gramplet" (rightclick->Add Gramplet->Census Gramplet) 12) Select the only person that is there. 13) In Census Gramplet on sidebar go to New. 14) Click on arrow down right of Source. You should see the "Source for 1841 Census". Michiel On 01/21/2012 12:29 PM, Mahu wrote: >> I deleted my Census source from John Doe, checked to make sure I still >> didn't have information entered under Person: Doe, John, Sources& Data. >> Re-started Gramps. Re-entered a Census Event and added my Source and Data >> infomation to that event. Re-start. Now in the Census Gramplet, Source was >> still greyed out but 1861 Census was showing in the window - but >> non-functional. >> >> Once more deleted the Census Event with the Source and Data and re-entered >> it. This time in the Census Gramplet, Sources did give an active blank >> window and I was able to select 1861 Census. > > I'm new to Gramps so am probably missing something very basic. I've been > trying for the last four or five hours to get the census gramplet working > but no census shows up in the drop down box when I try to add a new record. > I've added the source info and the data keys as per above and the wiki to no > avail. After each failed attempt I remove the census event and source and > re-enter but can't seem to get any censuses to show in the drop down box. > > I'd really like to get this working as it looks like a great feature. > > Any help you could provide would be gratefully received. > > Thanks :) > > -- > View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/Help-with-Census-Gramplet-tp4036780p4315838.html > Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try before you buy = See our experts in action! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 _______________________________________________ Gramps-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
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