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Ian Tatlock
Thanks very much.  

So is there a good, usable alternative to the relationship graph?

Thanks.

Ian

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: How to print a full pedigree chart in Gramps (Ron Johnson)
   2. Re: New System and File Location (Ron Johnson)
   3. Sibling order issue in Gramps Relationship Graph (Nate Dub)


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Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 08:16:28 -0600
From: Ron Johnson <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] How to print a full pedigree chart in
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Pedigree is *just* your ancestors.  No one else.  That's why you're
struggling...  :)

What you want is Reports->Graphs->"Relationship Graph..." (Though honestly
it's not too useful once your tree gets "too big".  I recall that being
somewhere below 2,000 people.  All those siblings and their spouses
children, etc, etc just doesn't fit cleanly unless you go *REALLY* wide, but
that makes it almost impossible to track the generations..)

On 02/01/2017 04:38 AM, Ian Tatlock wrote:

>
> Dear Gramps,
>
> Many thanks to you and the Gramps organisation for producing such a
> wonderful tool and piece of software like Gramps.
>
> I?ve entered all of my relations? details but am struggling to find a
> way to produce a PDF print of a vertical Pedigree chart (traditional
> family
> tree) of my family that includes everybody ? each and every person and
> sibling for every family.
>
> Can you please explain whether Gramps can do this and if so, how?
>
> In anticipation, many thanks.
>
> Ian Tatlock
>
>

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Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 08:25:14 -0600
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On 02/01/2017 04:39 AM, Keith Jacobs wrote:
>
> Ron
>
> The important files, as you describe them, are on the local drive.
>
Ah.

> It is only the database files that are on the network drive where I
> keep *all of my data*.
>

I made a mistake (thinking that the path pointed to .gramps).  You need to
symlink grampsdb to Gramps.
First delete any Gramps-related symlinks you just created.  Then:
$ cd ~/.gramps
$ ln -s smb:/netdata/usb_storage/Data/Gramps grampsdb $ ls -aFl grampsdb/


> This works fine on my standalone Mint v17.3 system.
>

For that you'll have to ask the Mint people.

> I am now having problems opening files of another application that are on
> the network drive so I think I need to remove the symlink and perhaps
> think of another solution.
>
>
> Regards
> Keith Jacobs
> On 01/02/17 09:53, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> You only need to run ln once, to point .gramps to the location of your
>> database(s).
>>
>> And you're missing a *lot* of stuff from the .gramps directory. (Bolded
>> are the critical ones.)  Also, the database are supposed to be under
>> .gramps/grampsdb.
>>
>> $ ls -aFl .gramps
>> total 188
>> drwxrwxr-x  10 ron ron  4096 Nov 15 18:31 ./
>> drwxr-xr-x 151 ron ron 57344 Feb  1 03:48 ../
>> -rw-rw-r--   1 ron ron  2902 Dec 12  2015 books.xml
>> -rw-rw-r--   1 ron ron  8164 Jun  6  2016 DetailedDescendantBook.xml
>> -rw-rw-r--   1 ron ron  5143 Aug 11  2015 det_ancestor_report.xml
>> -rw-rw-r--   1 ron ron  5168 Jun  6  2016 det_descendant_report.xml
>> *drwxrwxr-x   2 ron ron     6 Jan 21  2015 env/**
>> *-rw-rw-r--   1 ron ron  4687 Dec 28  2015 family_descend_chart.xml
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 ron ron  4096 Jan 21  2015 gramps40/
>> drwxrwxr-x   3 ron ron  4096 Aug  6  2015 gramps41/
>> *drwxrwxr-x   3 ron ron  4096 Feb 16  2016 gramps42/*
>> *drwxrwxr-x  12 ron ron   166 Jan 31 08:38 grampsdb/*
>> drwxr-xr-x   3 ron ron    27 Jul 24  2015 maps/
>> *-rw-rw-r--   1 ron ron  1864 Jan 31 16:37 recent-files-gramps.xml**
>> **-rw-rw-r--   1 ron ron 47334 Jan 27 13:42 report_options.xml*
>> drwxrwxr-x   2 ron ron     6 Jan 21  2015 temp/
>> drwxrwxr-x   4 ron ron    33 Jan 21  2015 thumb/
>> *-rw-rw-r--   1 ron ron  1009 Jan 30 12:26 tool_options.xml*
>>
>> $ ls -aFl .gramps/*grampsdb*
>> total 44
>> drwxrwxr-x 12 ron ron  166 Jan 31 08:38 ./
>> drwxrwxr-x 10 ron ron 4096 Nov 15 18:31 ../
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 Nov  1 16:44 55b832bd/
>> smb:/netdata/usb_storage/Data/Gramps drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 May  1  
>> 2016 55d21612/
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 Jan 31 16:01 57999dff/
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 Jan 22 07:08 5799a479/
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 Aug  2  2016 57a0a4f5/
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 Nov 20 05:34 58046ce7/
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 Jan 24 10:27 587ac28e/
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 Jan 27 05:28 588b1507/
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 Jan 31 08:37 588fa92f/
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ron ron 4096 Jan 31 16:39 5890a162/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/01/2017 03:33 AM, Keith Jacobs wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Brad & Ron
>>>
>>> Thanks I tried this but to no avail
>>>
>>> keith@keith-H61M-D2H-USB3 ~ $ mv .gramps .gramps-hold
>>> keith@keith-H61M-D2H-USB3 ~ $ ln -s smb:/netdata/usb_storage/Data/Gramps

>>> .gramps
>>> keith@keith-H61M-D2H-USB3 ~ $ ls -aFl .gramps/
>>> total 12
>>> drwxr-xr-x 3 keith keith 4096 Jan 30 17:28 ./
>>> drwxr-xr-x 3 keith keith 4096 Jan 30 16:27 ../
>>> drwxr-xr-x 2 keith keith 4096 Jan 30 17:34 *588f77d6/*
>>> keith@keith-H61M-D2H-USB3 ~ $ ln -s netdata/usb_storage/Data/Gramps
.gramps

>>> keith@keith-H61M-D2H-USB3 ~ $
>>>
>>> The Folder 588f77d6/ is not on the Network drive but is in
>>> */home/keith/smb:/netdata/usb_storage/Data/Gramps*
>>>
>>> When I renamed the folder /home/keith/smb: to /home/keith/old smb:
>>> Gramps would not open.
>>>
>>> If I now try to rerun the above commands I get "cannot overwrite
>>> directory" and "failed to create symbolic link" errors
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith Jacobs
>>> On 31/01/17 19:16, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> ln -s netdata/usb_storage/Data/Gramps .gramps

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Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 00:15:33 +0800
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Subject: [Gramps-users] Sibling order issue in Gramps Relationship
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Hi,

I want the siblings for a family to be ordered from oldest to youngest(from
left to right), but Gramps or graphviz orders them randomly in the
'Relationships graph' view (under Reports).

Apparently this is a known issue and a plugin was developed that fixed this
issue but is no longer available. I posted on the reddit forum and was
directed to email you.

Can you please send me this plugin fix and when will it be integrated into
the software? Are there any alternative solutions?

Regards,

Nate
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Gil da Costa
On 01/02/2017 18:29, Ian Tatlock wrote:
> Thanks very much.
>
> So is there a good, usable alternative to the relationship graph?
>
The relationship graph does not need any alternative. It's quite good.

You just need to apply the adequate filter, in order to restrict the graph.


G.Da Costa


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