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Martin Ewing
I've been having  frustration with bad slash-date processing in v
3.0.1-1.  (Previously reported as bug and now fixed in SVN.)

A couple of questions:

1.  Is there a published or other way to predict when new releases
will happen?  [Waiting for a release is one thing.  Waiting for a
binary to show up in your distro's repository is another.  Fedora 8 is
still at 2.2.10.]  The solution is to get the release source.

2.  I broke down and got the current stuff from SVN, which seems to
work very nicely. However, there is a big warning dialog that comes up
and says that this is not release code and may be risky to use.  My
question, if we are bold enough to dig into SVN, how "risky" is it in
practice?  What goes into new releases -- a big regression test
series?  Or is it like my other projects, where somebody says "It
looks good enough to me", and pushes a button. ;-)

Inquiring minds want to know...

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Re: Releases & SVN

Gary Burton
Hello Martin

Because you get the warning dialog when you start up Gramps it sounds like you downloaded the "trunk" version. If you are just looking for bug fixes then you should stay well away from "trunk" and download the "gramps30" branch instead. The "gramps30" branch contains bug fixes only and is what Gramps 3.0.2 will be released from. A new release is made from gramps30 when enough fixes have been committed to make a new release worthwhile. A new release might be made earlier if really bad data corrupting bug is found.

The "trunk" version is our development playground and contains all sorts of stuff which comes with no guarantees that it will work or things that might not make it into a real release. Heed the warnings on the startup dialog. It might eat your database. The "trunk" version is frequently very unstable, though at the moment it happens to be in a fairly good state. However, you should not depend on that and it should only ever be used with a copy of your data, even then only for development and testing.

For information on how to get the stable gramps30 branch from svn, please read:
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Brief_introduction_to_SVN#Stable_version_3.0.x

Bye

Gary





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From: Martin Ewing <[hidden email]>
To: Gramps ML <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 11 September, 2008 20:02:11
Subject: [Gramps-users] Releases & SVN

I've been having  frustration with bad slash-date processing in v
3.0.1-1.  (Previously reported as bug and now fixed in SVN.)

A couple of questions:

1.  Is there a published or other way to predict when new releases
will happen?  [Waiting for a release is one thing.  Waiting for a
binary to show up in your distro's repository is another.  Fedora 8 is
still at 2.2.10.]  The solution is to get the release source.

2.  I broke down and got the current stuff from SVN, which seems to
work very nicely. However, there is a big warning dialog that comes up
and says that this is not release code and may be risky to use.  My
question, if we are bold enough to dig into SVN, how "risky" is it in
practice?  What goes into new releases -- a big regression test
series?  Or is it like my other projects, where somebody says "It
looks good enough to me", and pushes a button. ;-)

Inquiring minds want to know...

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Branford, CT

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Re: Releases & SV

Martin Ewing
Thanks!

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Gary Burton <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello Martin
>
> Because you get the warning dialog when you start up Gramps it sounds like you downloaded the "trunk" version. If you are just looking for bug fixes then you should stay well away from "trunk" and download the "gramps30" branch instead. The "gramps30" branch contains bug fixes only and is what Gramps 3.0.2 will be released from. A new release is made from gramps30 when enough fixes have been committed to make a new release worthwhile. A new release might be made earlier if really bad data corrupting bug is found.
>
> The "trunk" version is our development playground and contains all sorts of stuff which comes with no guarantees that it will work or things that might not make it into a real release. Heed the warnings on the startup dialog. It might eat your database. The "trunk" version is frequently very unstable, though at the moment it happens to be in a fairly good state. However, you should not depend on that and it should only ever be used with a copy of your data, even then only for development and testing.
>
> For information on how to get the stable gramps30 branch from svn, please read:
> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Brief_introduction_to_SVN#Stable_version_3.0.x
>
> Bye
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Martin Ewing <[hidden email]>
> To: Gramps ML <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, 11 September, 2008 20:02:11
> Subject: [Gramps-users] Releases & SVN
>
> I've been having  frustration with bad slash-date processing in v
> 3.0.1-1.  (Previously reported as bug and now fixed in SVN.)
>
> A couple of questions:
>
> 1.  Is there a published or other way to predict when new releases
> will happen?  [Waiting for a release is one thing.  Waiting for a
> binary to show up in your distro's repository is another.  Fedora 8 is
> still at 2.2.10.]  The solution is to get the release source.
>
> 2.  I broke down and got the current stuff from SVN, which seems to
> work very nicely. However, there is a big warning dialog that comes up
> and says that this is not release code and may be risky to use.  My
> question, if we are bold enough to dig into SVN, how "risky" is it in
> practice?  What goes into new releases -- a big regression test
> series?  Or is it like my other projects, where somebody says "It
> looks good enough to me", and pushes a button. ;-)
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> --
> Martin Ewing, AA6E
> Branford, CT
>

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Re: Releases & SVN

Brian Matherly
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Martin,

> 1.  Is there a published or other way to predict when new
> releases
> will happen?  [Waiting for a release is one thing.  Waiting
> for a
> binary to show up in your distro's repository is
> another.  Fedora 8 is
> still at 2.2.10.]  The solution is to get the release
> source.

We maintain a roadmap on the the issue tracker here: http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/roadmap_page.php

Make sure you change the project by choosing "Gramps 3.0.X" from the drop-down on the upper right.

You can see that there are two bugs left that are slated to be fixed before the next release.

~Brian

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Re: Releases & SVN

Benny Malengier
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2008/9/11 Martin Ewing <[hidden email]>
I've been having  frustration with bad slash-date processing in v
3.0.1-1.  (Previously reported as bug and now fixed in SVN.)

A couple of questions:

1.  Is there a published or other way to predict when new releases
will happen?  [Waiting for a release is one thing.  Waiting for a
binary to show up in your distro's repository is another.  Fedora 8 is
still at 2.2.10.]  The solution is to get the release source.

2.  I broke down and got the current stuff from SVN, which seems to
work very nicely. However, there is a big warning dialog that comes up
and says that this is not release code and may be risky to use.  My
question, if we are bold enough to dig into SVN, how "risky" is it in
practice?  What goes into new releases -- a big regression test
series?  Or is it like my other projects, where somebody says "It
looks good enough to me", and pushes a button. ;-)

Is this dialog not only in Trunk? DON'T USE TRUNK !!!!!!!

If you want svn code to work with, gramps30 branch should be stable and not break things although some commits happen from time to time. If the slash date fix is not there, bug the developer who fixed it to fix it in gramps30 too, as it is a bug, not a feature, yes?

Trunk however, has some database changes, so it means unofficial xml files and unofficial database, up to the moment trunk is deemed ready for an alpha release (and xml and database should no longer change).

Benny


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Re: Releases & SV

Benny Malengier
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Sorry for the double reply of me, the subject changed (SV instead of SVN?), so I did not catch this thread before reading it

Benny

2008/9/11 Martin Ewing <[hidden email]>
Thanks!

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Gary Burton <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello Martin
>
> Because you get the warning dialog when you start up Gramps it sounds like you downloaded the "trunk" version. If you are just looking for bug fixes then you should stay well away from "trunk" and download the "gramps30" branch instead. The "gramps30" branch contains bug fixes only and is what Gramps 3.0.2 will be released from. A new release is made from gramps30 when enough fixes have been committed to make a new release worthwhile. A new release might be made earlier if really bad data corrupting bug is found.
>
> The "trunk" version is our development playground and contains all sorts of stuff which comes with no guarantees that it will work or things that might not make it into a real release. Heed the warnings on the startup dialog. It might eat your database. The "trunk" version is frequently very unstable, though at the moment it happens to be in a fairly good state. However, you should not depend on that and it should only ever be used with a copy of your data, even then only for development and testing.
>
> For information on how to get the stable gramps30 branch from svn, please read:
> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Brief_introduction_to_SVN#Stable_version_3.0.x
>
> Bye
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Martin Ewing <[hidden email]>
> To: Gramps ML <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, 11 September, 2008 20:02:11
> Subject: [Gramps-users] Releases & SVN
>
> I've been having  frustration with bad slash-date processing in v
> 3.0.1-1.  (Previously reported as bug and now fixed in SVN.)
>
> A couple of questions:
>
> 1.  Is there a published or other way to predict when new releases
> will happen?  [Waiting for a release is one thing.  Waiting for a
> binary to show up in your distro's repository is another.  Fedora 8 is
> still at 2.2.10.]  The solution is to get the release source.
>
> 2.  I broke down and got the current stuff from SVN, which seems to
> work very nicely. However, there is a big warning dialog that comes up
> and says that this is not release code and may be risky to use.  My
> question, if we are bold enough to dig into SVN, how "risky" is it in
> practice?  What goes into new releases -- a big regression test
> series?  Or is it like my other projects, where somebody says "It
> looks good enough to me", and pushes a button. ;-)
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> --
> Martin Ewing, AA6E
> Branford, CT
>

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Re: Releases & SVN

Eckhard Genßmann
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Brian,
do you have an idea, by when the new release 3.0.2 will be ready for
download and install?
I'm waiting for a bug fix to be deployed related to narrative web site
generation. I'm running GRAMPS 3.0.1 on Ubuntu and that version does not
handle data privacy issues correctly. The only chance to update my website
today is to export my data and open in GRAMPS 2.2.10 (which still runs on my
windows box)

Regards,
Eckhard

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Martin,

> 1.  Is there a published or other way to predict when new
> releases
> will happen?  [Waiting for a release is one thing.  Waiting
> for a
> binary to show up in your distro's repository is
> another.  Fedora 8 is
> still at 2.2.10.]  The solution is to get the release
> source.

We maintain a roadmap on the the issue tracker here:
http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/roadmap_page.php

Make sure you change the project by choosing "Gramps 3.0.X" from the
drop-down on the upper right.

You can see that there are two bugs left that are slated to be fixed before
the next release.

~Brian

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Re: Releases & SVN

Brian Matherly
> Brian,
> do you have an idea, by when the new release 3.0.2 will be
> ready for
> download and install?

There is only one bug left on the roadmap. I'll try to take a look at it this weekend. If all goes well, we might be able to make a release in the next week or two.

~Brian

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