On 9/27/19 11:24 AM, szulicki wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Could you please share your ideas re how it is possible to show reflect the
> following events?
>
> Wars
> Concentration camps
I'd enter those as custom Events.
> Repressions
> Disposession
Please be more specific. (But probably custom events.)
> Also, what about military awards? Show they just be added as media or there
> is some other place, specially dedicated for that?
Attributes and notes, maybe? Also maybe Events of type Military Service.
I'm intrigued. In what way is a concentration camp an event?
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According to the Cambridge Dictionary, the event is "anything that happens, especially something unusual".
Definitely, the term event may not sound nice with regards to the concentration camp, however, I believe, it is fair to have a possibility to reflect when a person got there and the section with events is the only way I can imagine it
Kindest Regards,
Eugene
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 9:05 AM Brad Rogers <[hidden email]> wrote:
>reflect when a person got there and the section with events is the only
>way
I'd opt for the Event being an Internment, occurring at a place of
Type Concentration Camp. Or, more generally, Prison Camp.
That said, until I had more than a handful of Camps, I use a custom
place type of Institution - with a note, if the name doesn't make it
clear - to avoid cluttering the type list.
If it's common for the institution to have the type included in its name
(for example, West Street Primary School or Hammersmith Hospital) I stick
with Institution. Thus far, the only exception to that rule I've made is
for a custom place type of Church.
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/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
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According to the Cambridge Dictionary, the event is "anything that happens, especially something unusual".
Definitely, the term event may not sound nice with regards to the concentration camp, however, I believe, it is fair to have a possibility to reflect when a person got there and the section with events is the only way I can imagine it
Kindest Regards,
Eugene
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 9:05 AM Brad Rogers <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Folks,
Thanks for your inputs! I think I will follow what was suggested by Rob and create custom events:
Imprisonment (not sure yet if it is worth to include there both 'regular' imprisonment events and such things as concentration camps or to separate the latter)
Dispossession (or dekulakization, sounds strange to me but that's the derivative from the original term)
Gulag (need to think of it. Technically, it is both imprisonment and the camp)
Repression (I think of this as a compilation of residence event and imprisonment, so-called "kulatskaya ssylka", or just deportation)
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 12:34 PM Dirk Munk via Gramps-users <[hidden email]> wrote:
Perhaps not, but it is the event that > at this moment < is
the best fit.
You might want to use interment instead? It is more generic.
This would support poor house & asylum commitments too. But it might offend some people who think of interment as only being the specific standard type 'Burial'. (What about inurnments or entombments?)
You might want to use interment instead? It is more generic.
This would support poor house & asylum commitments too. But it might offend some people who think of interment as only being the specific standard type 'Burial'. (What about inurnments or entombments?)
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:14:31 +0000 (UTC)
Emyoulation--- via Gramps-users <[hidden email]>
wrote:
Hello Emyoulation---,
>some people who think of interment as only being the specific standard
>type 'Burial'. (What about inurnments or entombments?)
Interment = Burial
not to be confused with
Internment = Imprisonment
They're two different but, admittedly, very similar sounding words.
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/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
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Sobibor and Auschwitz-Birkenau were extermination camps, not
concentration camps. There were just a few extermination camps, and
those were set up to murder as many people as possible as fast as
possible.
However, there were hundreds of concentration camps where many
people died, but mostly not shortly after they arrived. Sometimes it
took weeks, sometimes months or years. People also survived
concentration camps, some were even released.
Ron Johnson wrote:
Given that events can have date
ranges, I'm confused by what you are saying.
On 9/28/19 5:10 AM, Dirk Munk via Gramps-users wrote:
Perhaps not, but it is the event that > at this moment <
is the best fit.
On 28/09/2019 08:51, Brad Rogers wrote:
> I'd opt for the Event being an Internment, occurring at a place of
> Type Concentration Camp. Or, more generally, Prison Camp.
Yes. Internment has previously been suggested as a military event for
prisoners of war. It would also be valid as a political event type.
Deportation as event with deportation camp name as place. As said with a concentration camp or prison place name type.
Dispossessions as note of the Deportation event, or a second new Spoliation event to describe what was taken/stolen.
Patrice
Le sam. 28 sept. 2019 à 12:51, Ievgenii Shulitskyi <[hidden email]> a écrit :
Folks,
Thanks for your inputs! I think I will follow what was suggested by Rob and create custom events:
Imprisonment (not sure yet if it is worth to include there both 'regular' imprisonment events and such things as concentration camps or to separate the latter)
Dispossession (or dekulakization, sounds strange to me but that's the derivative from the original term)
Gulag (need to think of it. Technically, it is both imprisonment and the camp)
Repression (I think of this as a compilation of residence event and imprisonment, so-called "kulatskaya ssylka", or just deportation)
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 12:34 PM Dirk Munk via Gramps-users <[hidden email]> wrote:
Perhaps not, but it is the event that > at this moment < is
the best fit.
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Enough weren't immediately massacred that they were able to
revolt, slay many guards, and escape.
On 9/28/19 6:56 AM, Dirk Munk via Gramps-users wrote:
Sobibor and Auschwitz-Birkenau were extermination camps, not
concentration camps. There were just a few extermination camps,
and those were set up to murder as many people as possible as fast
as possible.
However, there were hundreds of concentration camps where many
people died, but mostly not shortly after they arrived. Sometimes
it took weeks, sometimes months or years. People also survived
concentration camps, some were even released.
Ron Johnson wrote:
Given that events can have date
ranges, I'm confused by what you are saying.
On 9/28/19 5:10 AM, Dirk Munk via Gramps-users wrote:
Perhaps not, but it is the event that > at this moment <
is the best fit.
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