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Tim Lyons

Wiki update was [gramps-users]Re: level of confidence of sources

> The documentation is not yet fully finished (page http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Entering_and_editing_data:_detailed_-_part_2#Editing_source_references
> will be rewritten to point to citations instead).

I hadn't realise quite how out of date some parts of the wiki User
Manual were! That's not a criticism because I realise it is
everybody's responsibility to update the wiki, and I was working on
the wiki myself - but had just thought there were some minor updates
to the manual needed. For example, the description of the note tab
says simply edit the text string (so was from some time when there was
only a single note). The source reference says there is a source
selection part where one can choose from the the drop-down menu of
source titles, or click new. This seems to date from before Gramps v2!!!

I would like to add the icons for gtk stock icons (e.g. stock-edit
etc.) How should I do that? Should I upload the icons from my copy of
gtk, or should I make a reference (in Template.Icon) to the gtk icons
on some website (I don't know if I can do that). Is the copyright on
the gtk icons correct for uploading to the wiki?

Regards,
Tim.

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Benny Malengier

Re: Wiki update was [gramps-users]Re: level of confidence of sources

2012/4/15 Tim Lyons <[hidden email]>

> The documentation is not yet fully finished (page http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Entering_and_editing_data:_detailed_-_part_2#Editing_source_references
> will be rewritten to point to citations instead).

I hadn't realise quite how out of date some parts of the wiki User
Manual were! That's not a criticism because I realise it is
everybody's responsibility to update the wiki, and I was working on
the wiki myself - but had just thought there were some minor updates
to the manual needed. For example, the description of the note tab
says simply edit the text string (so was from some time when there was
only a single note). The source reference says there is a source
selection part where one can choose from the the drop-down menu of
source titles, or click new. This seems to date from before Gramps v2!!!

I would like to add the icons for gtk stock icons (e.g. stock-edit
etc.) How should I do that? Should I upload the icons from my copy of
gtk, or should I make a reference (in Template.Icon) to the gtk icons
on some website (I don't know if I can do that). Is the copyright on
the gtk icons correct for uploading to the wiki?

Copyright of gtk is GPL I think. Tango icons are creative commons. So we need to attribute.
If you upload to the website, in the comment/text, add the attribution and the copyright of the image. Normally you find it also in the svg in the properties of the file (in inkscape you can see it).

Benny

Regards,
Tim.

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Tim Lyons

Re: Wiki update was [gramps-users]Re: level of confidence of sources

On 15 Apr 2012, at 12:24, Benny Malengier wrote:

2012/4/15 Tim Lyons <[hidden email]>

I would like to add the icons for gtk stock icons (e.g. stock-edit
etc.) How should I do that? Should I upload the icons from my copy of
gtk, or should I make a reference (in Template.Icon) to the gtk icons
on some website (I don't know if I can do that). Is the copyright on
the gtk icons correct for uploading to the wiki?

Copyright of gtk is GPL I think. Tango icons are creative commons. So we need to attribute.
If you upload to the website, in the comment/text, add the attribution and the copyright of the image. Normally you find it also in the svg in the properties of the file (in inkscape you can see it).

I can't understand how to find out what the attributions and copyright of the images is.

This page:

http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/gtk-Stock-Items.html

has the icons on them but the only copyright on that page is Copyright © 2005‒2011 The GNOME Project and I don't know whether that applies to the text or the images and there is no statement on how the images can be used!

How do I tell which is Tango, and which is gtk?

jerome

Re: Wiki update was [gramps-users]Re: level of confidence of sources

In reply to this post by Tim Lyons

Otherwise, there is also a 'art work' category on wiki for some pages !
http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Developers/Artwork

Here, is the common Tango library:
http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library

I guess most icons used by Gramps sounds rather Tango than Gtk?

--- En date de : Dim 15.4.12, Tim Lyons <[hidden email]> a écrit :

De: Tim Lyons <[hidden email]>
Objet: Re: [Gramps-devel] Wiki update was [gramps-users]Re: level of confidence of sources
À: "gramps devel list" <[hidden email]>
Date: Dimanche 15 avril 2012, 13h53

On 15 Apr 2012, at 12:24, Benny Malengier wrote:

2012/4/15 Tim Lyons <[hidden email]>

I would like to add the icons for gtk stock icons (e.g. stock-edit
etc.) How should I do that? Should I upload the icons from my copy of
gtk, or should I make a reference (in Template.Icon) to the gtk icons
on some website (I don't know if I can do that). Is the copyright on
the gtk icons correct for uploading to the wiki?

Copyright of gtk is GPL I think. Tango icons are creative commons. So we need to attribute.
If you upload to the website, in the comment/text, add the attribution and the copyright of the image. Normally you find it also in the svg in the properties of the file (in inkscape you can see it).

I can't understand how to find out what the attributions and copyright of the images is.
This page:http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/gtk-Stock-Items.htmlhas the icons on them but the only copyright on that page is Copyright © 2005‒2011 The GNOME Project and I don't know whether that applies to the text or the images and there is no statement on how the images can be used!
How do I tell which is Tango, and which is gtk?
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Tim Lyons

Re: Wiki update was [gramps-users]Re: level of confidence of sources

On 15 Apr 2012, at 14:54, jerome wrote:

> Here, is the common Tango library:
> http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library
>
> I guess most icons used by Gramps sounds rather Tango than Gtk?

I don't think so. Gramps seems to use gtk stock icons (that is what
the code refers to), and I presume these are ones that come with gtk.
(They may be derived from Tango, but I think they are not actually
distributed as tango, but as part of gtk.)

Anyway, the page you refer to does not seem to specify the copyright
of the icon, nor what attribution is needed when they are used.

> --- En date de : Dim 15.4.12, Tim Lyons <[hidden email]> a
> écrit :
>
> I can't understand how to find out what the attributions and
> copyright of the images is.
> This page:http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/gtk-Stock-
> Items.htmlhas the icons on them but the only copyright on that page
> is Copyright © 2005‒2011 The GNOME Project and I don't know
> whether that applies to the text or the images and there is no
> statement on how the images can be used!
> How do I tell which is Tango, and which is gtk?